The maroon car at the top looks magnificent! Why anyone would not want the original mags on their Nagari, god only knows, they really do make the difference between it looking like a kit car and not (apologies to those that don't have original wheels - my opinion only).
Hmmmmmmmmm. I eagerly support the good looks of the orginal factory mags. But, narrow 6 x 14 mags that were often porous when new and are now nearly 40 years old? Not only antiquated when modern tyre selection needed but possibly bloody dangerous as well. Not a great recipe for supporting a truly hi peformance car. There was talk of a run of repro wheels using modern methods and materials - what ever became of that project? Similar to the new 12 slots and Minilites now available. better than the originals ever were. Dragaway advertise their services to manufacture custom state of the art wheels and no doubt "new" original style wheels with modern widths and diameters should be a piece of cake for them and also allow for brake upgrades. Oops I forgot, many people want to keep them original with tiny discs on the front and drum brakes on the rear (a specification that only puss bucket base model Corollas have these days). Having said that BBS and other hitech wheels do not look "kit car" whilst having the same wheels as on the many street machines from yesteryear does. Actually Dragaway would only have to custom make the centres as they could then place them in a multitude of appropriate wheel rims and diameters that exceed the current ADR's. Even going up "plus 2" allows for a strong range of 16" modern tyres even if the brakes remain standard. I thought the Qld Nagari roadster looks fantastic wih its state of the art wheels.
The question of values, is always open to speculation. Is the BVE sports really worth the $150,000 being asked? Wayne M reportedly turned down $100,000+ for his Sports, And B8/62 sold for $75,000 in 2004. I suppose the value of a particular car always comes down to what the buyer is prepared to pay, it is the buyers preference as to whether the car is original, modified, or whatever. I recall a story of a Nagari being sold, the new owner thought he was buying an original Sports, after realising his mistake he threatened legal action, and the sale was reversed. As for the question of wheels, I do have a preference for look of the originals, but for practibility newer wheels would be a safer option. There are lots of good options in the market place which I feel wouldn't look Kit Car-ish, 15" Globes, Minilites, Cobra replica wheels, or many of the good '60's or '70's replica styles, maybe that would be a good topic for future conversation. PeterG
Could not resist this thread. Just shot an email off to Dragway to see what they can do and for how much. My one overwhelming memory of my first Nagari was scaring myself witless under brakes. And remember all the Nagari crashes in the 70's which were single vehicle crashes front on into immovable objects? I have other classic cars with brake and other upgrades and have kept the original bits to ensure the car could be returned to stock if ever needed. In the meantime to use in modern traffic I prefer modern rubber and brakes. I have a memory from the late 70's of a female in an A90 stopped halfway into the backseat of a 911 which simply stopped quickly but in no great panic for a red light. 1950's brakes no match for 1970's technology. Modern family cars more than often have ABS, 17" or larger wheels and wide low profile rubber and all have brakes to make the old Bollie owner weep. When these things stop they stop very very quickly. It makes sense to protect your classic by a few sensible upgrades unless said classic is a garage queen. But I also agree with choice being one of the great things we have in our society. If not why were all the MGB's sold? And 186S Monaros? Regarding Bollie prices there seems to be a vaste gulf between Nagari prices with them spread over some $ 20,000 for coupes with factory sports fairly static some $ 15000 above. I simply do not understand the prices of Mk 7's as many seem to be a bargain unless the use of professional restorers is planned. Mk 7's have a price spread of some $ 35,000.
Wayne, in the Victorian club, was taking orders for new wheels with more appropriate modern rim sizes. I have no reason to believe that that project isn't proceeding.
This last one being transacted as we speak.
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The maroon car at the top looks magnificent! Why anyone would not want the original mags on their Nagari, god only knows, they really do make the difference between it looking like a kit car and not (apologies to those that don't have original wheels - my opinion only).
....and for those who have switched, does anybody have any original wheels they want to get rid of?
Hmmmmmmmmm. I eagerly support the good looks of the orginal factory mags. But, narrow 6 x 14 mags that were often porous when new and are now nearly 40 years old? Not only antiquated when modern tyre selection needed but possibly bloody dangerous as well. Not a great recipe for supporting a truly hi peformance car. There was talk of a run of repro wheels using modern methods and materials - what ever became of that project? Similar to the new 12 slots and Minilites now available. better than the originals ever were. Dragaway advertise their services to manufacture custom state of the art wheels and no doubt "new" original style wheels with modern widths and diameters should be a piece of cake for them and also allow for brake upgrades. Oops I forgot, many people want to keep them original with tiny discs on the front and drum brakes on the rear (a specification that only puss bucket base model Corollas have these days). Having said that BBS and other hitech wheels do not look "kit car" whilst having the same wheels as on the many street machines from yesteryear does. Actually Dragaway would only have to custom make the centres as they could then place them in a multitude of appropriate wheel rims and diameters that exceed the current ADR's. Even going up "plus 2" allows for a strong range of 16" modern tyres even if the brakes remain standard. I thought the Qld Nagari roadster looks fantastic wih its state of the art wheels.
The question of values, is always open to speculation. Is the BVE sports really worth the $150,000 being asked? Wayne M reportedly turned down $100,000+ for his Sports, And B8/62 sold for $75,000 in 2004.
I suppose the value of a particular car always comes down to what the buyer is prepared to pay, it is the buyers preference as to whether the car is original, modified, or whatever.
I recall a story of a Nagari being sold, the new owner thought he was buying an original Sports, after realising his mistake he threatened legal action, and the sale was reversed.
As for the question of wheels, I do have a preference for look of the originals, but for practibility newer wheels would be a safer option. There are lots of good options in the market place which I feel wouldn't look Kit Car-ish, 15" Globes, Minilites, Cobra replica wheels, or many of the good '60's or '70's replica styles, maybe that would be a good topic for future conversation.
PeterG
Could not resist this thread. Just shot an email off to Dragway to see what they can do and for how much. My one overwhelming memory of my first Nagari was scaring myself witless under brakes. And remember all the Nagari crashes in the 70's which were single vehicle crashes front on into immovable objects? I have other classic cars with brake and other upgrades and have kept the original bits to ensure the car could be returned to stock if ever needed. In the meantime to use in modern traffic I prefer modern rubber and brakes. I have a memory from the late 70's of a female in an A90 stopped halfway into the backseat of a 911 which simply stopped quickly but in no great panic for a red light. 1950's brakes no match for 1970's technology. Modern family cars more than often have ABS, 17" or larger wheels and wide low profile rubber and all have brakes to make the old Bollie owner weep. When these things stop they stop very very quickly. It makes sense to protect your classic by a few sensible upgrades unless said classic is a garage queen. But I also agree with choice being one of the great things we have in our society. If not why were all the MGB's sold? And 186S Monaros? Regarding Bollie prices there seems to be a vaste gulf between Nagari prices with them spread over some $ 20,000 for coupes with factory sports fairly static some $ 15000 above. I simply do not understand the prices of Mk 7's as many seem to be a bargain unless the use of professional restorers is planned. Mk 7's have a price spread of some $ 35,000.
Wayne, in the Victorian club, was taking orders for new wheels with more appropriate modern rim sizes. I have no reason to believe that that project isn't proceeding.
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